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Great film,looks great but a bit long
by ib011f9545i 22 hours ago (Fri Jan 6 2012 12:45:12)
I have seen the second and third Swedish verions of the books,but missed the first one,so was glad to see the English language version of this.
So I can't compare GIRL/TATTOO with the Swedish version but as a stand alone film it was great.
This might be Daniel Craig's best performance,and Rooney Mara was amazing.
I have been to Sweden several times and am a big fan of Stockholm,this film made me want to go back again.
I reject people saying it should not have been made,making a film in English means it will be seen by many more people than a subtitled film.
I think the film has a great Swedish sort of feel,unlike the English version of INSOMNIA or the English version of THE KILLING,the Atlantic North West is not Scandanavia.
Of course me saying that the film makes me lust after Sweden will mean that someone on IMDB will point out the film was actually filmed elsewhere?
Why was bits of it filmed in Norway?
by joeblackis 5 hours ago (Sat Jan 7 2012 05:19:55)
They could of and should of cut out the final 20minutes or so of the movie about stealing the money.
No real purpose except wasting time.
They could of left in those 20minutes as a dvd/blu ray extended version instead.
by Rob801 5 hours ago (Sat Jan 7 2012 05:45:25)
UPDATED Sat Jan 7 2012 05:48:59
I actually wish I could've seen Finchers first cut of 3:07...Different strokes I guess :). It wasn't a waste of time as it sets up for some events in the sequels, and if you choose to just look at it as a stand alone film, it brings resolution to the Wennerstrom affair.
To the OP, there was a Swedish reviewer that said that Fincher caught the feel of Sweden and Stockholm better than Oplev did ;). As far as filming (a shot?) in Norway, I was kind of wondering about that myself. There was a Swedish user that noticed it but most other people wouldn't of course.
"I haven't pitched a tent like this since Dick Cheney shot that guy in the face!"-John Oliver
by blupblup 5 hours ago (Sat Jan 7 2012 05:49:42)
Totally agree about seeing the longer cut... I like long films, especially if they are worth it and don't drag.
Why wouldn't people want to see more of a great film?
While many didn't like Watchmen, I loved it and the longer cuts just add to the story... same with many extended cuts. If you like the original film, why wouldn't you like 'More' film.
Walter Sobchak: Am I wrong?
The Dude: You're not wrong Walter. You're just an a**hole.
by bruckelsprout 1 hour ago (Sat Jan 7 2012 09:17:04)
I think it really depends on what you're adding, though. Sometimes the extended cut puts in scenes that really make a difference to your understanding of the characters, and sometimes the extended portions just slog down the movie's pacing.
As far as the OP's post for the movie being a bit too long - while I really liked this film, I felt like perhaps the extended part with Wennerstrom and Lisbeth's money-stealing shenanigans was a "second ending," because at some point the movie gets wrapped up in the Harriet Vanger/serial killer storyline we totally forget about Wennerstrom. So after they find Harriet, it feels like the movie will be finished, and then suddenly there's a whole other section that feels like a fourth third of the movie. I wonder if that could have been solved by adding a scene with Wennerstrom, Erika, and Millennium would have reminded us that this other stuff was still an issue.
by GHsgirl 1 hour ago (Sat Jan 7 2012 09:44:23)
"I wonder if that could have been solved by adding a scene with Wennerstrom, Erika, and Millennium would have reminded us that this other stuff was still an issue."
Well, it sure had to be resolved one way or the other, since the reason why Blomkvist accepted the job Henrik offered, was the dirty Henrik had on Wennerstrom. It can be argued that they could have cut a few minutes from the whole scene with Lisbeth in drag. However, the conclusion of the Wennerstom case, in relation to Blomkvist's story arch, needed to be closed.
by bruckelsprout 56 minutes ago (Sat Jan 7 2012 10:01:16)
Oh, I'm not saying that that section of the movie shouldn't have been there. I actually liked that part. But after mystery of Harriet's disappearance is solved, I believe people start to wind down expecting the conclusion. Especially at the reunion scene. The Wennerstrom ending feels like a tack-on, and I was just wondering if a couple more references might have made it feel more interconnected, since the Vanger mystery dominated the last two-thirds of the movie.
by GHsgirl 47 minutes ago (Sat Jan 7 2012 10:10:55)
Got it. And I understand too that some people have/had difficulty because to them it might drag down and seem anticlimax.
I liked it too, and in the book I hadn't liked that part so much when I read on the page. To me seeing it coming to life like that was very interesting.
by deke8989 36 minutes ago (Sat Jan 7 2012 10:21:01)
Is it a proven fact or still just a rumour that Fincher had a longer cut? I've never heard an exact time of 3:07 before. Where'd you hear that, Rob. I just got overly excited about a possible director's cut blu-ray.
by Rob801 12 minutes ago (Sat Jan 7 2012 10:45:03)
UPDATED Sat Jan 7 2012 10:54:44
I don't remember the exact link but it was a video interview with Fincher and IIRC that time (3:07) was mentioned and he was asked about a directors cut and he basically said that cut was too long and didn't have the right flow and that the 2:40 cut was his doing. He also said something about not believing in directors cuts and that you put your best foot forward with what you got. It was one I saw in a thread on this board somewhere.
But who knows, he still could have felt an obligation to keep the film down to a length that wouldn't completely alienate most movie goers and sink the project (as much as I would have liked a longer cut personally, I don't think it would have helped ticket sales).
Edit: I found the interview here:
http://collider.com/david-fincher-girl-with-the-dragon-tattoo-intervie
"I haven't pitched a tent like this since Dick Cheney shot that guy in the face!"-John Oliver
Great film,looks great but a bit long
by ib011f9545i 22 hours ago (Fri Jan 6 2012 12:45:12)
I have seen the second and third Swedish verions of the books,but missed the first one,so was glad to see the English language version of this.
So I can't compare GIRL/TATTOO with the Swedish version but as a stand alone film it was great.
This might be Daniel Craig's best performance,and Rooney Mara was amazing.
I have been to Sweden several times and am a big fan of Stockholm,this film made me want to go back again.
I reject people saying it should not have been made,making a film in English means it will be seen by many more people than a subtitled film.
I think the film has a great Swedish sort of feel,unlike the English version of INSOMNIA or the English version of THE KILLING,the Atlantic North West is not Scandanavia.
Of course me saying that the film makes me lust after Sweden will mean that someone on IMDB will point out the film was actually filmed elsewhere?
Why was bits of it filmed in Norway?
by joeblackis 5 hours ago (Sat Jan 7 2012 05:19:55)
They could of and should of cut out the final 20minutes or so of the movie about stealing the money.
No real purpose except wasting time.
They could of left in those 20minutes as a dvd/blu ray extended version instead.
by Rob801 5 hours ago (Sat Jan 7 2012 05:45:25)
UPDATED Sat Jan 7 2012 05:48:59
I actually wish I could've seen Finchers first cut of 3:07...Different strokes I guess :). It wasn't a waste of time as it sets up for some events in the sequels, and if you choose to just look at it as a stand alone film, it brings resolution to the Wennerstrom affair.
To the OP, there was a Swedish reviewer that said that Fincher caught the feel of Sweden and Stockholm better than Oplev did ;). As far as filming (a shot?) in Norway, I was kind of wondering about that myself. There was a Swedish user that noticed it but most other people wouldn't of course.
"I haven't pitched a tent like this since Dick Cheney shot that guy in the face!"-John Oliver
by blupblup 5 hours ago (Sat Jan 7 2012 05:49:42)
Totally agree about seeing the longer cut... I like long films, especially if they are worth it and don't drag.
Why wouldn't people want to see more of a great film?
While many didn't like Watchmen, I loved it and the longer cuts just add to the story... same with many extended cuts. If you like the original film, why wouldn't you like 'More' film.
Walter Sobchak: Am I wrong?
The Dude: You're not wrong Walter. You're just an a**hole.
by bruckelsprout 1 hour ago (Sat Jan 7 2012 09:17:04)
I think it really depends on what you're adding, though. Sometimes the extended cut puts in scenes that really make a difference to your understanding of the characters, and sometimes the extended portions just slog down the movie's pacing.
As far as the OP's post for the movie being a bit too long - while I really liked this film, I felt like perhaps the extended part with Wennerstrom and Lisbeth's money-stealing shenanigans was a "second ending," because at some point the movie gets wrapped up in the Harriet Vanger/serial killer storyline we totally forget about Wennerstrom. So after they find Harriet, it feels like the movie will be finished, and then suddenly there's a whole other section that feels like a fourth third of the movie. I wonder if that could have been solved by adding a scene with Wennerstrom, Erika, and Millennium would have reminded us that this other stuff was still an issue.
by GHsgirl 1 hour ago (Sat Jan 7 2012 09:44:23)
"I wonder if that could have been solved by adding a scene with Wennerstrom, Erika, and Millennium would have reminded us that this other stuff was still an issue."
Well, it sure had to be resolved one way or the other, since the reason why Blomkvist accepted the job Henrik offered, was the dirty Henrik had on Wennerstrom. It can be argued that they could have cut a few minutes from the whole scene with Lisbeth in drag. However, the conclusion of the Wennerstom case, in relation to Blomkvist's story arch, needed to be closed.
by bruckelsprout 56 minutes ago (Sat Jan 7 2012 10:01:16)
Oh, I'm not saying that that section of the movie shouldn't have been there. I actually liked that part. But after mystery of Harriet's disappearance is solved, I believe people start to wind down expecting the conclusion. Especially at the reunion scene. The Wennerstrom ending feels like a tack-on, and I was just wondering if a couple more references might have made it feel more interconnected, since the Vanger mystery dominated the last two-thirds of the movie.
by GHsgirl 47 minutes ago (Sat Jan 7 2012 10:10:55)
Got it. And I understand too that some people have/had difficulty because to them it might drag down and seem anticlimax.
I liked it too, and in the book I hadn't liked that part so much when I read on the page. To me seeing it coming to life like that was very interesting.
by deke8989 36 minutes ago (Sat Jan 7 2012 10:21:01)
Is it a proven fact or still just a rumour that Fincher had a longer cut? I've never heard an exact time of 3:07 before. Where'd you hear that, Rob. I just got overly excited about a possible director's cut blu-ray.
by Rob801 12 minutes ago (Sat Jan 7 2012 10:45:03)
UPDATED Sat Jan 7 2012 10:54:44
I don't remember the exact link but it was a video interview with Fincher and IIRC that time (3:07) was mentioned and he was asked about a directors cut and he basically said that cut was too long and didn't have the right flow and that the 2:40 cut was his doing. He also said something about not believing in directors cuts and that you put your best foot forward with what you got. It was one I saw in a thread on this board somewhere.
But who knows, he still could have felt an obligation to keep the film down to a length that wouldn't completely alienate most movie goers and sink the project (as much as I would have liked a longer cut personally, I don't think it would have helped ticket sales).
Edit: I found the interview here:
http://collider.com/david-fincher-girl-with-the-dragon-tattoo-intervie
"I haven't pitched a tent like this since Dick Cheney shot that guy in the face!"-John Oliver
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