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I'm sick and tired of seeing the standard white guy with the racially ambiguous woman in movies. Why can't Hollywood cast dark skinned black women in these roles? Are mixed actors now in fashion? I honestly can't remember the time, I've seen a dark skinned actress in an action role for quite sometime.
by TJ_With_The_Rocky_Tattoo2012
I think you missed Colombiana then. And Thandie Newton cannot be mistaken for anything BUT a black woman and neither can Paula Patton to be honest. She's not that racially ambiguous, she pretty much looks black with lighter skin.
I...BRING IT!
by hero4hire (Mon Dec 26 2011 01:03:15)
I kinda get where the OP is coming from. Anytime you see films like this, and they have a female on the team its usually what I call an 'ambiguously brown'actress, which means the actress is clearly ethnic but light enough in skin tone and generally "looks good standing next to the white guy". These actresses include but surely arent limited to: Thandie Newton,Rosario Dawson, Paula Patton, Halle Berry, Rae Dawn Chong(for all you old school heads), Zoe Saldana(ESPECIALLY!). Its a very demeaning phenom to actresses of color.
Now that I think about it...whens the white chick gonna be second to the Black action hero...scary thought huh?
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by rapunzel_1 (Mon Dec 26 2011 01:12:01)
How BLACK do you want the woman to be to say "yeah she is a black woman?"
by Hugo_Cabret (Mon Dec 26 2011 01:41:06)
Columbiana was a french film produced by Luc Besson. NOT hollywood.
by quinmario97-1 (Mon Dec 26 2011 02:34:46)
OMG, THIS. Paula Patton is a black woman. Just ask her husband Robin Thicke, he talks about loving his black woman all the time. Who the hell cares about skin shade, she's still black. Besides, it was a good movie. Why are you making this a racial issue? And this is coming from a black woman.
by TheDarkRighteousFist (Mon Dec 26 2011 06:08:24)
OMG, THIS. Paula Patton is a black woman. Just ask her husband Robin Thicke, he talks about loving his black woman all the time. Who the hell cares about skin shade, she's still black.
What he's saying is that they don't usually cast darker skinned black women in leading action roles. It's always the light-skinned women who get the part.
For example, you see Paula Patton being cast alongside Tom Cruise - but I bet you box office money you'd NEVER see someone like Anika Noni Rose in that role.
Or you see Halley Berry being cast alongside Pierce Brosnan - but I bet you box office money you'd NEVER see someone like Kimberly Elise in that role.
As bad as it sounds, he has a point. It's the light skinned actresses that get the leading roles opposite the great white heroes, while the darker skinned actresses are . . . kept where and with whom they belong, so to speak.
by rick-586 (Mon Dec 26 2011 06:55:24)
In what world is Paula Patton racially ambigious?
I'm sure in your head you think you're making a highminded argument here - but it's pretty insulting to see this discussion relegate some fine actresses to "light skinned blacks" as if that's their only value. And as if breaking people down into light-skinned vs. dark-skinned isn't just as racist as seeing people as black or white... you're still seeing people by the color of their skin rather than who they are.
Let's be honest - in a movie like this Paula Patton was cast because she's smoking hot - but she's also a fine actress (recent evidence: Precious), so please stop using her as fodder for a misguided argument.
by steelo86 (Mon Dec 26 2011 06:59:37)
That's not entirely true. There are examples of brown and/or dark skinned women getting lead roles in action films:
- Sanaa Lathan, lead actor of Alien vs. Predator
- Grace Jones, Bond Girl in "View to a Kill"
- Gabrielle Union, female lead in "Bad Boys II" (I include this because it's a big budget action film, but if you want to discredit because the lead actors are black, fine)
- Naomie Harris in "Skyfall" (upcoming Bond film in production for 2012 release)
I won't include singers (Aaliyah in "Romeo Must Die", Rihanna in "Battleship", Whitney Houston in "Bodyguard") in action movies because there's plenty of room for speculation that those women got their parts through their popularity.
And let's not forget Pam Grier, who even Quentin Tarantino referred to as the first female action movie star. True, the action movies she starred in were a subgenre of the blaxploitation craze of the 70s, but roles like "Coffy" and "Foxy Brown" are iconic.
by enriquesinghjr (Mon Dec 26 2011 07:08:49)
Come on people, Hollywood is all about looks, they probably didn't consider Viola Davis for Patton's role, as much as they didn't consider Seth Rogen for Tom Cruise's role (had it not been the case that he's the producer and owner of the franchise).
by Staley67-02 (Mon Dec 26 2011 07:47:07)
Waah, the girsl not black enough.
Waah, Hollywood is racist.
Waah, I can't get a job because the guy that interviewed me is racist.
Stop your whining for God's sake.
"I see dumb people"
by nikkiten1979 (Mon Dec 26 2011 08:51:21)
What the hell are you talking about? Racially Ambiguous??? What does that even MEAN? She's half White half Black - that to you is ambiguous? Stupid. If you can't tell what you see then you're the one with an ambiguous mind and vision.
can't outrun your own shadow
by nikkiten1979 (Mon Dec 26 2011 08:55:40)
Paula and Thandie are both mixed with Black and White and they look IT. They are NOT just Black women - they are mixed and they are not ambiguous like the stupid OP claims them to be - what an insult!!! Most people look at them and think "Black" (which BTW Okay), and it's not as if we have MANY Black or mixed Black women in movies nowadays.
can't outrun your own shadow
by assumedkilla (Mon Dec 26 2011 09:16:06)
I disagree with you and the OP. It's pretty clear that Paula is black/white, so maybe the OP doesn't know what ambiguous means. Saying she looks white is pretty crazy too.
Zoe is a black Hispanic... her ancestors are from Africa just like a black person in America. Being Dominican, PR, Brazilian, etc doesn't change that.
I do agree that Hollywood does pick light skinned and/or mixed black woman way before a brown or dark one, when they're the far more common ones IRL. Anyone who denies this is naive, racist, or out of touch with reality.
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by crapsdealer711 (Mon Dec 26 2011 09:29:30)
They Should have cast Gabourey Sidibe...the lard a$ from Precious. would that be dark skinned enough for you? I think it would be just as plausible as the rest of this nonsense.
by assumedkilla (Mon Dec 26 2011 09:29:59)
How BLACK do you want the woman to be to say "yeah she is a black woman?"
Well, having two black parents means you're black. The "one drop rule" is a racist idea that America has been using since slavery and it's still around today. If she had two black parents and was still kinda light then this would be a different discussion, but she's biracial, not a black woman.
"I never saved anything for the swim back."
by TJ_With_The_Rocky_Tattoo2012 (Mon Dec 26 2011 09:34:13)
What does being biracial have to do with being black or not? If the race that makes up your two races is BLACK then you are considered BLACK. Why does it matter if she's mixed with white too? She doesn't LOOK WHITE she looks black.
I...BRING IT!
by assumedkilla (Mon Dec 26 2011 09:43:46)
lol, if you don't think having a white parent and a black parent affects your race then I don't think you know what race is, SMH. It matters because that's what she is, a biracial woman, and she looks like it. Patton clearly looks mixed. I would be more surprised if she was all black than white/black. Thinking if you have any black in you means you're all black is a retarded/racist idea. They used to do that during slavery because they didn't want mixed slaves getting freedom, so they were classified as black too. In reality, a lot of masters were enslaving their own half white kids because they had raped the women, but they didn't want their kids to be free. I see no reason to keep that logic around today.
"I never saved anything for the swim back."
by jmckay27 (Mon Dec 26 2011 10:07:49)
Except for Harold and Kumar, the business of movies still is dominated by you know who. What ever happened to the John Singleton's or the John Woo's?
by TJ_With_The_Rocky_Tattoo2012 (Mon Dec 26 2011 10:15:04)
I'm biracial myself so I think I know what I'm talking about here. And for the record you are misconstruing what I'm saying. Paula Patton CLEARLY looks more black than white, do you think she could pull off a WHITE person role? Hell no, they tried that with Rosario Dawson and it was AWFUL, she just looked like she had on too much white makeup. I'm not saying that having a white and black parent means that you are automatically black, it is based on your features more than anything else.
Taking myself as an example, I have biracial parents too and I came out looking more black than white so that is what I relate myself to. If I had came out the other spectrum I would relate more to the white aspect of my family in terms of what I would define my race as. It is usually much easier for a biracial person that looks like the dominate race to say that is their race do you understand?
It is QUITE CLEAR that Patton has ALL black features except her more refined nose. She "looks" like a black person with lighter skin. If you were to darken her skin she'd look like a dark skinned African woman. So does Rosario Dawson, Thandie Newton, and Zoe Saldana as well. Halle Berry doesn't look MIXED either, the only reason you would think that Patton is mixed is because of her HAIR which is more than likely weave or she had to have it chemically relaxed in order for it to flow the way that it does.
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